tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652924.post116350260751239152..comments2024-03-02T01:02:21.655-08:00Comments on Applied Data Science and <br>Machine Learning: Free And Inexpensive Data Mining SoftwareDean Abbotthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16818000233889520746noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652924.post-1166285952913405912006-12-16T08:19:00.000-08:002006-12-16T08:19:00.000-08:00Dean:Thanks for your reply to my comment. I agree...Dean:<BR/>Thanks for your reply to my comment. I agree, the focus of YALE is on flexibility and providing many techniques, interfaces, and options and hence is more technical. While we added the graphical user interfaces, the online tutorial with application examples, and an easy to use programm installer to improve the usability of YALE, I agree, that there is still quite some room for Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652924.post-1165583063036463432006-12-08T05:04:00.000-08:002006-12-08T05:04:00.000-08:00I keep running into these tools! Here are two mor...I keep running into these tools! Here are two more:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.ailab.si/orange" REL="nofollow">Orange</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.statistiklabor.de/en/" REL="nofollow">The Statistical Lab</A><BR/><BR/><BR/>-WillWill Dwinnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379859054257561952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652924.post-1165340502277571122006-12-05T09:41:00.000-08:002006-12-05T09:41:00.000-08:00Ralf:Thanks for your comments. I have tried YALE i...Ralf:<BR/>Thanks for your comments. I have tried YALE in the past few months, but found its interface difficult to work through, and as a result gave up. However, based on your comments, I revisited the software, and while I'm still struggling with the interface, I see now the richness of options. <BR/><BR/>I'll post again once I have more information. That said, I truly believe that YALE, Weka, Dean Abbotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16818000233889520746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652924.post-1165334388794359542006-12-05T07:59:00.000-08:002006-12-05T07:59:00.000-08:00Dean said to Will:While I like some of the free to...Dean said to Will:<BR/><BR/><I>While I like some of the free tools out there, [...] the problem I have with most of these tools is how much they put on the user to either be a proficient programmer, to preprocess the data outside the environment, or to accept a strange interface.</I><BR/><BR/>Some of the freely available open-source tools have matured significantly over the last couple of years. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652924.post-1164645376169046672006-11-27T08:36:00.000-08:002006-11-27T08:36:00.000-08:00The enterprise tools I have used extensively are s...The enterprise tools I have used extensively are so good, that I recommend them for big organizations that have larger data mining projects (multiple people) and large amounts of data. I'm thinking in particular of Clementine, Insightful Miner, Affinium Model, and Generation5 (I have not been able to get a hold of Enterprise Miner, though would love to test drive it to see how much it has Dean Abbotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16818000233889520746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652924.post-1164577494524697722006-11-26T13:44:00.000-08:002006-11-26T13:44:00.000-08:00Judging from the summary added by the editor here:...Judging from the summary added by the editor here:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.kdnuggets.com/polls/2005/data_mining_tools.htm" REL="nofollow">KDnuggets May-2005 Data Mining Software Survey</A><BR/><BR/>...I suppose I'm firmly in the "Department-level" camp. I think that tools in the "Personal-level" and "Free" categories may suit students, organizations with little budget and novice data minersWill Dwinnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379859054257561952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652924.post-1163710144623669822006-11-16T12:49:00.000-08:002006-11-16T12:49:00.000-08:00True enough on the cost issue, particularly for st...True enough on the cost issue, particularly for students. And I agree that for students, there are free options that would benefit them.<BR/><BR/>I agree as well that for many practitioners, under $2K can buy an excellent piece of software for data mining: the software already mentioned, but also other tools like Statistica, WizWhy, Neuralware Predict, XLMiner, etc. are all excellent tools. <BR/>Dean Abbotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16818000233889520746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652924.post-1163694310152073692006-11-16T08:25:00.000-08:002006-11-16T08:25:00.000-08:00My other comment on this was prepared in haste. I...My other comment on this was prepared in haste. I also wanted to mention that cost, for many would-be data miners, is a significant issue. As I imagine is the case with you, Dean, I have had the luxury of having an employer or client pay for software, etc. to make this process easier. This is not true for everyone, though. Students and others with less financial means may be able to usefully Will Dwinnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379859054257561952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652924.post-1163555250092304542006-11-14T17:47:00.000-08:002006-11-14T17:47:00.000-08:00You make some good points, and I'm not suggesting ...You make some good points, and I'm not suggesting that very inexpensive tools are ideal solutions- obviously there are trade-offs, as you mention. Personally, I prefer to work in the software US$2,000 (give or take) range. I will say, though, that I have yet to see a tool that costs north of $100,000 (and there have been a surprising number of them) that I thought was even close to being worth Will Dwinnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379859054257561952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652924.post-1163549389002017072006-11-14T16:09:00.000-08:002006-11-14T16:09:00.000-08:00Will:You and I agree on most things data mining, b...Will:<BR/>You and I agree on most things data mining, but here I have to take exception. While I like some of the free tools out there, and your list is a good one (I usually recommend WEKA, have tried SNNS and YALE in the past,and would add "R" to the list). However, the problem I have with most of these tools is how much they put on the user to either be a proficient programmer, to preprocess Dean Abbotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16818000233889520746noreply@blogger.com